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Summer L.
« on: January 19, 2017, 10:57:09 PM »
First off, thank you for your time! I have been pleasantly surprised by your way of dealing with Socionics, Ms. Olga.  :)

Good Pictures:

This by far is my most favorite. The colors and the subject just are gorgeous to me!


The colors and the subject are attractive. I am imagining being able to work with such beautiful materials in a secluded, natural, and rugged setting (That picture is the definition of a good day)


It would be very peaceful and comforting to be here


In a way, it shows that you don't like the whole circus of politics, but it expresses it in a "nice" way (and it's funny)


You might need to zoom out for this one. I have always loved the atmosphere. It vibes with my reflective nature and love of quiet morning scenery.


The purity and joy they are feeling makes me smile to no end  :)

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BAD Pictures:


I have no problem with the colors (I actually like them) but the girl looks too helpless and baby-like for her age! It's harsh, but I just want to slap her and say "stop."


This is just icky in every way. I get an awful feeling from it.


I'd like to slap whomever took this picture - how dare he! I know it was to show how desperate the kids are for food, but still....


It looks like she is ripping out guts and that really creeps me out. Also the colors do not leave a nice impression with me and that expression and body language is just way too chaotic! Not a nice feeling.


I can acknowledge the fact that this took talent, but it makes me dang near nauseous to look at it for long. Ugly color schemes chaotically spread all over the place. Ick.

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Good Music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysq_SYy1taA - this one has been with me since I was little. I haven't outgrown it yet, so it holds a special place in my heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ZmbHyzfCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FljkA5S1pSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCAdu8x6ZqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aaACjXX1t0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjUNAMGwmQ

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BAD Music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yW7w8F2TVA - his voice to me is like holding thick, slimy sludge that's just slowly plopping onto the ground. That is NOT how I feel what the lyrics are talking about. In fact he must be from another planet. If you ever want to torture me, make me listen to these three songs all the way through.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qp5vcuMIlk - it is almost like it is too tame or something. It strikes me as mass-produced, plastic music that people mindlessly consume. I feel like an alien listening to it because I can't vibe with his emotions at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXyBcKV0UIo - ug, don't get me started again ^^  Like the first one it is slimy(?) and sounds like what intoxication in sound form would be.

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Myself:





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TESTS:

The first time I took the art one, I got LII with ILI subtype. The next three times I took it, it wasn't able to calculate a type.

The associative test I got EII twice, maybe three times.

The other one I got super-ego and static.

With other tests I have been all over the board.....

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The first time I ever took a test years ago, I got INFP, and reading about it as a young teenager, it made me cry (in a good way). Between then and now I somehow got to the point of believing I was NiTe..... I am very open to your interpretations however, as reading about EII has really clicked, and that is what I am currently typing myself as.

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The most meaningful scenes from some good films, looking back now, invovled intense emotions and human relationships. They all were rather dark and atypical with major twists in the story at each scene.

Looking forward to hearing from whomever takes a look at this. Thanks again!!!

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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 04:47:25 PM »
Hi,
thank you very much for your information and sorry for delay. I was very busy writing a book and only now saw you post.  I will start analysing it very soon! I post it first into my groups on facebook and let others make their mind.
Kind regards,
Olga
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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2017, 10:46:21 AM »
I will write my impression after every criteria I watch.
So far I looked at your likes and dislikes in art and your photos. 
Art: I have a feeling of strong rationality. And also logics, sensing, statics introversion but....if the rationality is strong it can both Ti and Te. So, even noticed introversion, I am careful in suggesting that you can be just Ti...because pictures you have chosen are objective - about objects. So it could be Te as well. Do not see intuition as such in art, closed spaces, not much air.
Photos: LSE wibe I got from them. Other types are also possible.

I had very similar pictures from LIE in my practice and sometimes LIE and LSE can be very similar and hard to decide. It is just for you to know what I see in your pictures. If I think it is something interesting or important I will write here but not every little detail, of course.
Strong rejection of Superid energy and also Id. Irrationality. I need to check you statics -dynamics further and whether Ni is a vulnerable function - there is something else that made me think this way. Pretty sure about strong logics.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2017, 12:51:12 PM by Ольга »
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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2017, 11:14:33 AM »
Grandaddy - The Crystal Lake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5DsI_eCK7Y&index=6&list=PLJe4sGYVExp-NKEjCM9PA5jOSTWMXWmiu
Logics  and not exactly statics, closer to dynamics and Ego but in a soft way - intuitive rather than sensing. Or it could be something else.

Spider ~ White Snake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ZmbHyzfCg
Introversion, Si

Röyksopp - Remind Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FljkA5S1pSU
Introversion, sounds like Ni a bit but it could be also Si. Not sure.

Holly Miranda - Hold On, We're Going Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCAdu8x6ZqI
Nice and soft music. :) This sounds to me like Superego -music. Pretty static.

Both Sides Are Even - The Boxer Rebellion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aaACjXX1t0
Superego-music, sounds  intuitive.

Secret Garden- Papillon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjUNAMGwmQ
Introversion

The whole impression is that music is introverted and seems more rational and Superego like music. And logics. Sounds more intuitive than sensing.


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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2017, 11:56:38 AM »
Dislikes in music:

James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yW7w8F2TVA
Possibly ethics in rejection.

Ed Sheeran - Castle On The Hill [Official Lyric Video]
Ego- Superego music

Noah Cyrus - Make Me (Cry) ft. Labrinth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXyBcKV0UIo
This sounds to me like Ego and Fe.

On the whole it is possible to suggest that rejected is ethics either in Ego or Superego music.
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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2017, 12:10:07 PM »
Ok, now we look at the test results and what we see is Superego type, tests show preference for EII or LII with a link to introverted or static subtype. And there was also a thought about Ni-Te.
This is not a bad result but I need to take time to re-think all preferences from this perspective taking into account your test results. :)
I wonder if you, Summer L., would be interested in recording a video based on my questionnaire - this is something for you to consider. Video-recording is a part of diagnostics. Meanwhile I would like to ask you to calculate your type by a calculator and make a print-screen of the results and post it here.

Here is a link:http://socionics4you.com/post-6411?lang=en
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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2017, 01:15:30 PM »
I looked through everything again and I would say that EII is possible looking in particular at your music preferences. Your photos I mean your facial features are not very typical for EII or LII. I must admit that.
It would be nice to see more of your personality type in your video if you decide to record it. You can go public with it or to do it just for me and a couple of  my friends from my school.  It will be confidential. But even your public video can be destroyed after diagnostics. If you have any art of your own or any other hobby you do - this would be nice to see. 
This is all for now.  :)

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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2017, 02:50:01 AM »
I went through the questionnaire, and after doing so while considering the interpretations from this thread, I think it must be between LSI and LIE. I think I am confused as to Ti vs Ni, as I feel I am mixing them up, hence the TeNi vs TiSe.

Here's the video (feel free to use it as you like): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACKyHLcMnPA&feature=youtu.be


Here is what's calculated:




What do you think?

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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2017, 03:56:58 PM »
Hi, Summer L. Thank you for all information, it was very helpful.
I think that LSE fits quite well.
Functional profile:
 Logic is very strong, very well realised by you. Sensing and Intuition are suppressed by your logic and that is why you are not sure what could be your second best funcitons - creative. That is why you type is not just LSE but logical LSE.
I think that you  still lack some information on socionics and that is why you are not sure yet about your type. Listening to you I would say that sensing is stronger than intuition. You told that you use a lot of Ni and doubt but do not trust your intuition as such. What you told can be associated with vulnerable Ni function rather than creative. I would advice you to think about it- how is your Ni works for you and if this is a function of great concern for you rather being fun- creative function.
 (Saying all that I will tell you also - just for you knowledge  one more prospective  -  programme function suppress creative function.  Logical LIEs will also not trust their own creative functions. This is partly due to strong rationality in all rational type - do not trust your senses or intuition.)

Psychodynamic profile:
Your rationality is very strong and that is why your type is also a rational LSE (not dynamic or extraverted). This automatically means LSI as a subtype.
Yes, I see that you are very much into Ti by now but again I think you just need more information and proof to understand that your programme function is actually Te.
You have time now to think about yourself in terms of a strong leader - as Ego type, thinking and relying more on objective information and how does it work rather that what you think about the reality. Ti is more subjective and if the objective world does not fit into the frame of mind - this is bad for the objective world.
So, if you want to bring your vision and change this world - control the real world situation, then you need to know how this real world operates before you change it. Something like that.
Basically, you have now my vision of your type and I hope it will help you to start exploring your type. Learn more about LSE, LIE, LSI types so that you see the difference for yourself. And you are welcome back anytime to this topic to tell us what you think and how your perception of your type changes.

If you have any concerns and questions related to your type - please, ask now or later.  At some point I will transfer your topic to Archive of Ego-types, LSE.  this waht make happen and I want you to know where to look for it.

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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 04:21:15 PM »
Thanks much! Now that I think of it, the Ni "doubt" is NOT fun at all and is obsessive - not a strong function (this is incredibly helpful, thank you)

I definitely think I need more concrete examples of Ti then, because I seem to not understand. I will continue studying. I just wonder why my music choices were more mellow and super-ego than ego. Could this be because of moods and troubles rather than natural choice?

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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2017, 07:39:20 PM »
It is pretty normal that different criteria shows different qualities of a personality (type). That is why we use a complex approach.
Now I am listening again your music from what I know about you and your type.
First song Crystal lake - fits well wit LSE even though it sounds as intuitive.
Second song - is Superid song - it is  like blues, very slow and a bit sad. I think that this is Si actually in the pure form. Sinking feeling. Paired with Fe than with Te. It does remind be the SEIs songs.
Röyksopp - Remind Me - as I said earlier - mix of Ni+ Si, but more Ni because Ni is not sinking but moving and moving fast. But no feeling of Superid as such, no tention, mood is steady. This music comes from Superid functions but not in the position of dominant, they are in the rational frame. If you look at the model A described on my website then you will see that for rational types rational function create the frame, they contain irrational functions within the border acceptable for rationality.  This is not a proper sound of Superid. But we can make a conclusion that these functions are present in your mental block of Model A and hence you are a dynamic type, not static.
Holly Miranda - Hold On, We're Going Home
This song may actually be introverted rather than Superego, it may be equally liked by SEI and LSI. It is not always possible to define the song exactly what is and straight away.
Both Sides Are Even - The Boxer Rebellion
This song is sort of introverted but it has a "huge space" or energy which opens up - has an element of extraversion. This is what I mean. Logical Ego-types often prefer music which is introverted because they put more emphasis on texts. Or Ego-music can be quiet and then suddenly becomes louder and louder - tension grows and goes back to quiet.
Last song is peaceful and reflexive, again it could be how Superid functions sound in the frame of rational ones like Te+Fe.

Another important thing to say  that I am still in the process of understanding type -preferences. But I can suggest that this music make be cool you down and you get in touch with your Superid- functions Si + Ni. Superid functions are good to create internal harmony and a state of comfort where you can detach yourself from the world and go deeper into yourself with music - not that you consciously aware of that.
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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2017, 11:08:06 PM »
Hi Nosmirc, Hi Olga.

First two pictures seem like Sensorics (Introvert) but in subtype, because natural Introvert Sensorics demonstrate more dynamic in thier pictures...

Dog - is a Si, Stones with such a good texture - also Si, but, as I said, it seems more appropriate for statics than for dynamics...

Third picture - is a SuperEgo.

All three pictures can be add to Super Ego type.

Fourth picture looking like "statical" Ego because of specific red color, not such agressive like extravert sensoric, i.e. bit calm.

Fifth picture looking like kind of a "picnic", calm sitting on a shore... Also "weak" Si and a Super Ego type.



Opposition - all pictures are strong or not Extravert Ethics (Feeling), so I can say that the strong emotoins (Fe) are in opposition.


All music is calm and a bit dynamical, thus, I can say that main type is some of Super Ego and subtype - is some of dynamical...


More appropriate subtype is SLI - Gabin (in my scheme it is ISTP), but it may be also a LSE...


Main type seems like LII (INTJ but I'm not sure what type - P or J (INT*) is more apropriate for LII) because client is not "agressive" like sensoric extravert (Se).

By the photo, person looks like a half food type maybe bit a less... But main type nevertheless is a static, because person demonstrates  reactions more appropriate for static than for dynamic.
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Re: Summer L.
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2017, 11:35:23 PM »
I can say, that 'mix' of LII LSE/SLI, in my opinion, is a very common for North America, I mean USA, Canada for a white population.