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Бальзак - ILI / Re: Kevin
« Last post by Ольга on March 01, 2021, 05:18:00 PM »
Game Preference: Knights of The Old Republic 1, GTA: Vice City, Apex Legends, F-Zero GX

TV Preference: Duckman, Victorious, Ash vs. Evil Dead, Aeon Flux, The X-Files, Black Mirror

Movie Preference: Return of The Jedi, Kill Bill Vol. 1, Kick-Ass 1, Zoolander, Hocus Pocus, Scary Movie (the first one, guilty pleasure)
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Бальзак - ILI / Kevin
« Last post by Ольга on March 01, 2021, 02:29:28 PM »
Music   :)
Music Preference:
Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas,
https://youtu.be/6KnYw4EwYGc
Dorian Electra - Jackpot,
https://youtu.be/2g_nk82Sqbs
group_inou - HEART,
https://youtu.be/w_os8HqfxHc
Britney Spears - Work Bitch,
https://youtu.be/pt8VYOfr8To
Enigma - Sadeness,
https://youtu.be/x4maoo4A3x4
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams,
https://youtu.be/qeMFqkcPYcg
The Postal Service - Such Great Heights,
https://youtu.be/0wrsZog8qXg
 Slowdive - I Saw The Sun,
https://youtu.be/WVRK5heoMB8
Rosemary Fairweather - MTV,
https://youtu.be/vXUWwn8Me78
 Angel Vivaldi - Serotonin feat.
https://youtu.be/sAsMUXuBeB8
Nita Strauss, Daisuke Ishiwatari - Blue Water, Blue Sky (No Vocals)
https://youtu.be/phvMTox4msM
NITA STRAUSS - Our Most Desperate Hour
 (Official Music Video)
https://youtu.be/yNyQpe80TRA

 >:(
Joji
Joji - Run
https://youtu.be/K09_5IsgGe8
Filthy Frank's music
https://youtu.be/b9Wlei7ZV1Y
Rugrats Cartoon
https://youtu.be/jMEj9kQg3F8


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Психодиагностика / Re: Отзывы о консультациях
« Last post by Ольга on February 17, 2021, 08:42:03 PM »
F. Velouote
"To be honest, when I first saw your website a long time ago, I was quite skeptical. In the past, my fascination with socionics has been on the logical side; all of the underlying logical relations between parts and what they are measuring. But I started to consider the fact that socionics is a human system, and all those logical relationships are quite meaningless unless they can be understood and applied in a natural way - something that is conspicuously missing in a lot of socionics literature, being oversaturated with logical authors.

I wasn't sure exactly what to expect from the diagnostic, but it ended up being a very good exercise in self-reflection. The impression I have of other diagnostics is that the interviewer essentially just listens (if you're lucky) and tells, with little input from the client. Yours is the opposite approach, and much more valuable in its outcome because of the reflection required (a good practice even outside of socionics). The holistic approach is also noteworthy. I feel like type is explored from multiple angles, and individual differences are accounted for within the system. The art and music analysis, which is what I was most skeptical of, turned out to be very reasonable. The ability to compare what is said in the questionnaire with the unconscious taste presented in artwork and music is quite smart, and seems true to socionics psychoanalytic roots. Overall it was a wonderful experience, and I feel like I learned a lot about myself that would otherwise be very difficult to uncover."

Mary:
"“Olga’s guidance and methods were a relief for me. There is a lot of Socionics information out there and it is easy to fall into a deep hole of uncertainty. After years of researching and trying to see into the mirror, my vision seemed permanently clouded. Olga was able to finally help me understand my type through a structured system where various sorts of data are reviewed. She is great to work with because she explains her methods, she is flexible with her time, she has a lot of material for reference, and she is driven to find your type.  I could ask for nothing more out of a typing service, honestly. My doubt is gone!”
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Штирлиц - LSE / Re: F. Veloute
« Last post by Ольга on February 17, 2021, 08:37:59 PM »
Feedback received with many thanks! :)

"To be honest, when I first saw your website a long time ago, I was quite skeptical. In the past, my fascination with socionics has been on the logical side; all of the underlying logical relations between parts and what they are measuring. But I started to consider the fact that socionics is a human system, and all those logical relationships are quite meaningless unless they can be understood and applied in a natural way - something that is conspicuously missing in a lot of socionics literature, being oversaturated with logical authors.

I wasn't sure exactly what to expect from the diagnostic, but it ended up being a very good exercise in self-reflection. The impression I have of other diagnostics is that the interviewer essentially just listens (if you're lucky) and tells, with little input from the client. Yours is the opposite approach, and much more valuable in its outcome because of the reflection required (a good practice even outside of socionics). The holistic approach is also noteworthy. I feel like type is explored from multiple angles, and individual differences are accounted for within the system. The art and music analysis, which is what I was most skeptical of, turned out to be very reasonable. The ability to compare what is said in the questionnaire with the unconscious taste presented in artwork and music is quite smart, and seems true to socionics psychoanalytic roots. Overall it was a wonderful experience, and I feel like I learned a lot about myself that would otherwise be very difficult to uncover."
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Штирлиц - LSE / Re: F. Veloute
« Last post by Ольга on February 17, 2021, 02:51:31 PM »
I have asked Veloute to look for the similarity in the appearance in the type picture galleries. As a part of type diagnostics we also ask the client about his opinion of the type. Veloute considers his type as LSE and this is the picture he choose from the galleries of the 4 ST types.
Between the two most likely possible subtypes he has chosen rational one, even though we see more introverted dynamics in his music as well as extraverted dynamics in his art list.
LSE rational type of psychodynamics with Id being the last in his TPE profile: Ego - Superego/Superid - Id, LIE and LSI subtypes at the level of the 16 types.

In Russian
Я попросил Велута поискать сходство во внешнем виде в галереях шрифтов. В рамках типовой диагностики мы также спрашиваем у клиента его мнение о типе. Велут считает свой тип LSE, и это изображение он выбирает из галереи 4 типов ST.
Из двух наиболее вероятных возможных подтипов он выбрал рациональный, хотя мы видим более интровертную динамику в его музыке, а также экстравертную динамику в его художественном списке. LSE рациональный тип психодинамики, где Id является последним в его профиле TPE: Ego - Superego / Superid - Id, LIE и подтипы LSI на уровне 16 типов.
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Штирлиц - LSE / Re: F. Veloute
« Last post by Ольга on February 14, 2021, 10:31:34 PM »
Test results

     
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Штирлиц - LSE / Re: F. Veloute
« Last post by Ольга on February 14, 2021, 06:41:24 PM »
"That said, these are all songs that I have liked for a long time, and would put on if I just wanted to listen to music I enjoy with no other purpose. I appreciate melancholy and pensive music more than upbeat, happy music (though it has its place). Layers and driving/cascading rhythms are enjoyable to me. I appreciate a good call and response structure (like in folk and blues songs), or songs with morphing rhythms and motifs. Atmosphere and moodiness are a plus."
In Russian «Тем не менее, это все песни, которые мне нравились в течение долгого времени, и я бы поставил их, если бы я просто хотел послушать музыку, которая мне нравится, без всякой другой цели. Я ценю меланхолию и задумчивую музыку больше, чем веселую музыку (хотя мне нравятся слои и движущиеся / каскадные ритмы. Я ценю хорошую структуру вызова и ответа (как в народных и блюзовых песнях) или песни с изменяющимися ритмами и мотивами. Атмосфера и капризность - это плюс ».

Squarepusher - Beep Street
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKJ-0ZO4pxo
Superid. Very  Ni song and logical as well
When the Levee Breaks (Remaster)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFDYuO53BUk
Superego - Id. This song appears more static but still irrational.
Shady Grove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0f-dCMSVKQ
Superego - Id
Our Foes Shall Fall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtuwhKdXktg
Superid -Ego
Scheherazade ~ The Story of the Kalendar Prince
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg-kVzDAKxo
Ego - Superid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt-EhEsdbEQ
Building Steam With A Grain Of Salt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAJ0R9zHFY
 Logical, Superid - Superego. Appears to be static but has got a sinking feeling to it and too much of introverted dynamics.
Tokyo / Vermont Counterpoint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHAW29kXnKo
Logical, Superid - Superego, introverted dynamics. Te Reminds of the working of the mechanism like a clock or dripping water in a waterfall. Possible Si because of the focus on the sound beat.

I dislike many popular songs. There's some combination of how uninteresting a song is, compounded by how often I hear it, that makes me dislike it. That doesn't bode well for most popular songs.
I particularly dislike what might be described as hard rock. I would be genuinely annoyed if I were forced to listen to this stuff for a long time:
In Russian:  Не люблю многие популярные песни. Есть сочетание того, насколько неинтересна песня, и того, как часто я ее слышу, заставляет меня ее не любить. Для большинства популярных песен это не сулит ничего хорошего.
Мне особенно не нравится то, что можно назвать хард-роком. Я был бы искренне раздражен, если бы мне пришлось подолгу слушать эти вещи:

Skillet - "Feel Invincible" [Official Music Video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzw6A2WC5Qo
 Id - Ego, strong Se.
Disturbed - The Light [Official Music Video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LypjOTTH6E
 Id - Ego, strong Se.
Bon Jovi - It's My Life (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2u5uUu3DE
Ego - Id, Fe
Mudvayne - Happy? (Official HD Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anbrb2u9GYI
Id - Superid, irrational

"Something about the lack of innovation within the genre, combined with the simplicity of the hooks, and the try-hard edginess of it. It strikes me as very ingenuine, perhaps because of how much it adheres to pop sensibility, which seems at odds with the image/message it's trying to present."
In Russian:
Что-то по поводу отсутствия инноваций в жанре, в сочетании с простотой крючков, и чрезмерной нервозности в музыке. Это кажется мне очень неоригинальным, возможно, из-за того, насколько сильно он придерживается популярной чувствительности, которая, кажется, расходится с изображением / сообщением, которое он пытается представить.

The conclusion about F.V. music preferences.
Music is predominantly introverted, Superid - Superego, sometimes as a subtype energy is Id or Ego. Introverted dynamics is very obvious in music Ni + Si. Music appears to be also very logical no matter what TPE is leading Superid or Superego. Attention to sounds which makes me think of Si.
Rejected music of a powerful nature  - extraverted  with either Se or Fe leading functions but mostly Se is rejected.
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Есенин - IEI / Re: Mary
« Last post by Ольга on February 14, 2021, 05:52:00 PM »
Analysis  of the video questionnaire and discussion with Mary her subtype lead to the conclusion of most likely subtype IEE and her type is IEI.
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Есенин - IEI / Re: Mary
« Last post by Ольга on February 07, 2021, 04:53:16 PM »
 :D

PROF - Animal Patrol (Official Video)
https://youtu.be/kI_fS0bpLjA
The Weeknd-Dirty Diana Lyrics
https://youtu.be/6LHt3JCk2RA
TBH
https://youtu.be/w6E9JolT0bI
Lauv - Changes [Official Video]
https://youtu.be/pPAAFMtDUzo
The Phantom Of The Opera - Theme Song
https://youtu.be/-JaeBxYCI9k
The Very Thought Of You - Nat King Cole
https://youtu.be/QMI1MSw2JCw

 >:(

Queen Bitch · Lil' Kim
https://youtu.be/8rJ7VZadCGc
Awolnation - Not Your Fault
 https://youtu.be/Izwo-6ChSgc
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Есенин - IEI / Re: Mary
« Last post by Ольга on February 07, 2021, 04:08:31 PM »
           

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