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ТПЭ квадры - TPE quadras => Ид-типы => Гексли - IEE => Topic started by: Ольга on March 19, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
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Hi Everyone! I am new here. Wanted to share some of the images that I like and a few that I dislike (please see comments). I have been typed as IEE, but still new to Socionics. EIE seems like it could be a possibility as well, going by descriptions and functions, but I must admit that I am still learning.
Can anyone see anything in my picture choices?
I am a writer and do have a blog if any one is interested in seeing my style of writing etc. :
wingchairtraveller.blogspot.com.
One of my poems:
http://wingchairtraveller.blogspot.com/2013/09/and-i-hear-my-latest-poem.html?m=1 (http://wingchairtraveller.blogspot.com/2013/09/and-i-hear-my-latest-poem.html?m=1)
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Here are my favorite images:
http://www.pinterest.com/perpetualamused/astounding-art/ (http://www.pinterest.com/perpetualamused/astounding-art/)
I appreciate any help you can give me.
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music and videos. There may be more.:
http://youtu.be/LGD9i718kBU (http://youtu.be/LGD9i718kBU)
http://youtu.be/SRTw1bsjJWc (http://youtu.be/SRTw1bsjJWc)
http://youtu.be/s1tAYmMjLdY (http://youtu.be/s1tAYmMjLdY)
http://youtu.be/17ozSeGw-fY (http://youtu.be/17ozSeGw-fY)
http://youtu.be/UwJCWMDLkV4 (http://youtu.be/UwJCWMDLkV4)
http://youtu.be/8nTFjVm9sTQ (http://youtu.be/8nTFjVm9sTQ)
http://youtu.be/2EIeUlvHAiM (http://youtu.be/2EIeUlvHAiM)
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http://youtu.be/hbe3CQamF8k (http://youtu.be/hbe3CQamF8k)
http://youtu.be/DRtW1MAZ32M (http://youtu.be/DRtW1MAZ32M)
http://youtu.be/w3mn7EC-skg (http://youtu.be/w3mn7EC-skg)
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http://youtu.be/DtZ2RX3KEpk (http://youtu.be/DtZ2RX3KEpk)
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I was wondering if a video of myself would be helpful to you?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=lwWrOz8pZhI (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=lwWrOz8pZhI)
Also, here are some more music videos:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=w3mn7EC-skg (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=w3mn7EC-skg)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=My0FyN72Phc&feature=youtu.be (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=My0FyN72Phc&feature=youtu.be)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vW1hv37imjw&feature=youtu.be (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vW1hv37imjw&feature=youtu.be)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=llUMU1jy_4g (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=llUMU1jy_4g)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gH2efAcmBQM&feature=youtu.be (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gH2efAcmBQM&feature=youtu.be)
http://youtu.be/aXcoz-L6aTI (http://youtu.be/aXcoz-L6aTI)
http://youtu.be/aXcoz-L6aTI (http://youtu.be/aXcoz-L6aTI)
http://youtu.be/i5ZdzFyX5-E (http://youtu.be/i5ZdzFyX5-E)
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I would also like to add this Pinterest board to my images. The other was purely art. This one is many different types of images. It may help.
http://www.pinterest.com/perpetualamused/the-romantic-sort/ (http://www.pinterest.com/perpetualamused/the-romantic-sort/)
And I have another of my own photos taken that I am particularly happy with:
https://m.facebook.com/susan.harrisgamard/albums/10203413699734108/ (https://m.facebook.com/susan.harrisgamard/albums/10203413699734108/)
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https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/554777_10203388725349764_1354036212_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/554777_10203388725349764_1354036212_n.jpg)
introverted intuition, introversion
SuperID
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1969214_10203388725549769_829083053_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1969214_10203388725549769_829083053_n.jpg)
dynamics, introverted intuition,
SuperID
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/148367_10203388725789775_1882997821_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/148367_10203388725789775_1882997821_n.jpg)
dynamics, irrationality
SuperID
https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/p480x480/1489091_10203388726149784_136024242_n.jpg (https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/p480x480/1489091_10203388726149784_136024242_n.jpg)
introversion, little introverted sensorics, general mood - intuition
SuperID
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1962770_10203388726549794_1972094445_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1962770_10203388726549794_1972094445_n.jpg)
irrationality, intuition
Id-SuperID
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1549222_10203388726789800_1750144101_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1549222_10203388726789800_1750144101_n.jpg)
dynamics, irrationality, extraverted sensoric и extraverted intuition
Id
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10006632_10203388726989805_433442734_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10006632_10203388726989805_433442734_n.jpg)
extraverted intuition, irrationality
Id
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10004075_10203388727309813_444933353_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10004075_10203388727309813_444933353_n.jpg)
color SuperID-СЭ, intuition
SuperID
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/1623582_10203388727589820_797587707_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/1623582_10203388727589820_797587707_n.jpg)
SuperID, intuition
SuperID
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1509078_10203388727789825_1140826757_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1509078_10203388727789825_1140826757_n.jpg)
dynamics, introverted sensorics
SuperID
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1920235_10203388728109833_1152822834_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1920235_10203388728109833_1152822834_n.jpg)
logic , irrationality, extraverted intuition
Id
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1969154_10203388728349839_1331217869_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1969154_10203388728349839_1331217869_n.jpg)
introverted intuition, introversion
SuperID
judging by the pictures - intuit SuperID-Id
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Here is a video of myself answering the relevant questions:
http://youtu.be/YEONt59w4XU (http://youtu.be/YEONt59w4XU)
I apologize in advance. I ran out of storage on my phone at the end, so video cuts off. If you would like me to make another video, finishing up, I can absolutely do so.
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So, it turns out that YouTube is not accepting my video that I posted earlier today. It says it is too long. I have tried to attach it here, but file would be too large.
Here is another video of me in place of it:
http://youtu.be/Fg8Dl1ddZmg (http://youtu.be/Fg8Dl1ddZmg)
Another option would that I download the video into a thread in the Music and Art group. I apologize.
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Some more pictures I like:
In this album: https://m.facebook.com/susan.harrisgamard/albums/10203418868903334/
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Hi Susan,
I have listened today to your music and I would say that IEE - Huxley is very plausible option for you. The music is static and very intuitive. The profile most likely irrational Id - Superid. Subtype IEE.
Other typologists are still in the process of learning your materials. :)
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Thank you so much, Olga. Can you explain to me what Irrational Id-SuperId means please? Hard for me to follow.
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These are the names of the concept of 4 different types of psychic energy which is expressed in typical non-verbal and verbal preferences:
http://socionics4you.com/%d1%81%d0%be%d1%86%d0%b8%d0%be%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%ba%d0%b0-%d0%b8-%d0%b5%d1%91-%d0%b2%d0%be%d0%b7%d0%bc%d0%be%d0%b6%d0%bd%d0%be%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b8-%d0%b4%d0%bb%d1%8f-%d0%b0%d0%ba%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%b2%d0%b8/?lang=en (http://socionics4you.com/%d1%81%d0%be%d1%86%d0%b8%d0%be%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%ba%d0%b0-%d0%b8-%d0%b5%d1%91-%d0%b2%d0%be%d0%b7%d0%bc%d0%be%d0%b6%d0%bd%d0%be%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b8-%d0%b4%d0%bb%d1%8f-%d0%b0%d0%ba%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%b2%d0%b8/?lang=en)
1. The associative model “Butterfly”
In Socionics, the TPE groups are formed through the interchange of three basic dichotomies: extraversion-introversion, rationality-irrationality, and statics-dynamics.
S – sensing, L- logical (thinking), I – intuitive, E – ethical (feeling), I- introvert, E-extravert.
Id-types – are the irrational, static extraverts such as Aldous Huxley (IEE/ENFP), Don Quixote (ILE/ENTP), Napoleon I (SEE/ESFP) and Georgy Zhukov (SLE/ESTP).
Superid-types – are the irrational, dynamic introverts such as Sergei Yesenin (IEI/INFP), Honoré de Balzac (ILI/INTP), Alexandre Dumas (SEI/ISFP) and Jean Gabin (SLI/ISTP).
Ego-types– are the rational dynamic extroverts such as Hamlet (EIE/ENFJ), Victor Hugo (ESE/ESFJ), Jack London (LIE/ENTJ) and Stierlitz (LSE/ESTJ).
Superego-types – are the rational, static introverts such as Fyodor Dostoyevsky (EII/INFJ), Theodore Dreiser (ESI/ISFJ), Maximilien Robespierre (LII/INTJ), Maxim Gorky (LSI/ISTJ).
On the functional level, these four TPE-groups of types correlate to the four pairs of functions which bear the same characteristics because they are situated in the interchange of the same dichotomies (extraversion-introversion, rationality-irrationality, and statics-dynamics). Pairs of functions are correlated with the groups of types in the following way:
For Superego-types – these are the functions of introverted logic and ethics.
Ti – the logic of relativity between phenomena, referring to rules and principles, order and structure, adherence to legality, legal judgement, categorical thinking, scientific theories, reasoning.
Fi - ethics of relationships, feelings towards others, ethics, an attention to social norms, identifying friends and enemies, morality, moral judgement, attention to the needs of others, empathising with people, taking umbrage.
For Superid-types – these are the functions of introverted intuition and sensation.
Ni– intuition of vague premonition, foresight and hindsight, doubt and vivid imagination; indecisiveness (“To be or not to be – that is the question”); self-absorption, mental wanderings, detachment from reality; attention is directed to the changes and progression of events over time, memories of the past and future, illusions.
Si – relaxation and bodily sensations (comfort, smell, taste, sight, colour), assessing one’s level of comfort and those of others, maintaining a cosy environment; paying acute attention to sensory changes and the needs of the body; an attention to attractiveness and aesthetic appearance; the perception of surfaces through touch; interest in health issues and cooking; the ability to put others at ease, focusing on sensual sexuality and pleasant appearance.
For Id-types – these are the functions of extraverted intuition and sensation.
Ne – intuition of insight and discovery; ability to grasp the essence of phenomena (to trim the sails to the wind); inspiration of ideas, open mind and originality of thought, (ambition to be a genius or at least to make a discovery), pursuit of novelty, multiple interests, hobbies, interests, sharing of thoughts and perspectives; ability to see the alternatives, the hidden potential of things.
Se – volitional sensation, sensation of will power, space and territory; the strength of personality, sense of achievement and reality; wishes and desires, freedom of action, impulse to liberation, expansion in space, a sense of ownership, material possessions, valuables, seizing control of the environment, assessing and dealing with threats, success, physical impact, assertiveness, the ability to dominate, focusing on lustful sexuality and powerful appearance.
For Ego-types – these are the functions of extraverted logics and ethics.
Te – the logics of absoluteness and evidence of the phenomena; practical or business logic, pragmatism and common sense, feasibility and effectiveness of actions, goal-setting and instructions, methods and experiments, productivity, technology, organisation, persuasion with factual information, scientific practices, system approach, mechanical work and machinery, reliance on facts, statistics and working experience rather than theory.
Fe - ethics of emotions, recognising and utilising expression of emotions (joy, sadness, anger, anxiety, agitation, excitement, panic etc.), power of emotions, emotional pressure, recognising emotional reactions, persuasion through emotional expression , inspiring passion in others and manipulation of their emotions (especially in groups), artistry and drama, impression.
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Susan, may be, you could listen to the music of the types in question to see where it comes from. It is difficult to form an understanding about theory quickly but looking at the examples may be easier. These are examples of likes and dislikes in art and music. Also I would like to ask you to draw the tree and make a picture and post it here. Sometimes it is helpful in understanding the type - the drawing. If you have your drawings, you can post it herer as well. :)
http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,261.0.html (http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,261.0.html)
http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,157.0.html (http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,157.0.html)
http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,318.0.html (http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,318.0.html)
http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,159.0.html (http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,159.0.html)
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I also ask clients to post pictures of people to whom you are attracted instinctively. So that it may be difficult to explain what attracts exactly. And strong dislikes of some people without a particular reason - so that it is difficult to verbalise why you don't like him or her.
You are welcome to show such preferences as well here! :)
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Thank you for your explanation, Olga, and for the examples. I have a better understanding now. While I cannot say I prefer or like most of the examples posted of both music and art, I can definitely see the differences between the two types. There were examples from both that I liked and disliked. If I had to choose a type that I prefer out of the two, it would be IEE, although it is almost too static and too much force almost. Hard to explain.
Just to clarify, I should attempt to draw a general "tree". It can be any tree I choose? I will work on this ASAP, and hopefully I can locate some of my old drawings.
Thank you again for taking the time to explain.
Susan.
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Men that I am instinctively attracted to:
Robert Downey Jr.
https://www.google.com/search?q=robert+downey+junior&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=K5YwU7WpI5KkqwG-ioDwBw&ved=0CD8QiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C18%3Bd%7CM6_WICCSK3fvaM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=robert+downey+junior&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=K5YwU7WpI5KkqwG-ioDwBw&ved=0CD8QiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C18%3Bd%7CM6_WICCSK3fvaM%3A)
Liam Neeson
https://www.google.com/search?q=liam+neeson&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=SJgwU4qZKsPyqgGijoCgAw&ved=0CDwQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C37%3Bd%7Cd5-te_Syp_aIoM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=liam+neeson&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=SJgwU4qZKsPyqgGijoCgAw&ved=0CDwQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C37%3Bd%7Cd5-te_Syp_aIoM%3A)
Ralph Fiennes
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=S5gwU-2ePIyiqQGMiIDgAQ&q=ralph+fiennes&oq=ralph+&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.0.41j0l4.66029.72220.0.73839.21.15.3.3.3.1.342.2083.10j0j3j2.15.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..3.18.1492.pPgF6AUqefM#biv=i%7C3%3Bd%7C5l8QgI-f1AasRM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=S5gwU-2ePIyiqQGMiIDgAQ&q=ralph+fiennes&oq=ralph+&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.0.41j0l4.66029.72220.0.73839.21.15.3.3.3.1.342.2083.10j0j3j2.15.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..3.18.1492.pPgF6AUqefM#biv=i%7C3%3Bd%7C5l8QgI-f1AasRM%3A)
Jude Law
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=lpgwU5ikOYW1qQHTw4CgCw&q=Jude+Law&oq=Jude+Law&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.45996.52658.0.53474.21.18.0.3.3.2.428.2577.8j4j2j2j1.17.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..5.16.1884.sQr_m0ZmLnI#biv=i%7C27%3Bd%7CurQoMDAzRRrmrM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=lpgwU5ikOYW1qQHTw4CgCw&q=Jude+Law&oq=Jude+Law&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.45996.52658.0.53474.21.18.0.3.3.2.428.2577.8j4j2j2j1.17.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..5.16.1884.sQr_m0ZmLnI#biv=i%7C27%3Bd%7CurQoMDAzRRrmrM%3A)
Gary Lightbody
https://www.google.com/search?q=gary+lightbody&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=AZkwU8W0Lc7dqAHdhYH4BQ&ved=0CDYQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C69%3Bd%7C-Q_gZZ6J47VlVM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=gary+lightbody&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=AZkwU8W0Lc7dqAHdhYH4BQ&ved=0CDYQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C69%3Bd%7C-Q_gZZ6J47VlVM%3A)
Julian Sands
https://www.google.com/search?q=julian+sands&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=XZkwU_LCK8aOrQHm5YDICQ&ved=0CD8QiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C21%3Bd%7CXlOkMf2Trv-oDM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=julian+sands&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=XZkwU_LCK8aOrQHm5YDICQ&ved=0CD8QiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C21%3Bd%7CXlOkMf2Trv-oDM%3A)
Neil Degrasse Tyson
https://www.google.com/search?q=neil+degrasse+tyson&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Vp0wU6XsOaqw2wXU7ICQDw&ved=0CDwQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C10%3Bd%7CTFYBQIP-xQIK6M%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=neil+degrasse+tyson&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Vp0wU6XsOaqw2wXU7ICQDw&ved=0CDwQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C10%3Bd%7CTFYBQIP-xQIK6M%3A)
Bill Murray
https://www.google.com/search?q=bill+murray&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=KKIwU76BJsHv2QXV6IDYAw&ved=0CEwQiR4&biw=320&bih=504#biv=i%7C3%3Bd%7C97sLNg4cuG1L_M%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=bill+murray&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=KKIwU76BJsHv2QXV6IDYAw&ved=0CEwQiR4&biw=320&bih=504#biv=i%7C3%3Bd%7C97sLNg4cuG1L_M%3A)
Johnny Lee Miller
https://www.google.com/search?q=jonny+lee+miller&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=xKIwU5zJJcSx2QXetYH4Cg&ved=0CEIQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7C-BtJbwlGulQDZM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=jonny+lee+miller&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=xKIwU5zJJcSx2QXetYH4Cg&ved=0CEIQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7C-BtJbwlGulQDZM%3A)
Dan Stevens
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=b6MwU_nyJaS6yQGz_4H4Cw&q=dan+stevens&oq=dan+stevens&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.56693.62069.0.62716.25.20.0.3.3.7.378.2388.8j7j2j1.18.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..14.11.535.wZGDlRnRmJo#biv=i%7C18%3Bd%7CT91-IJN2CbaqPM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=b6MwU_nyJaS6yQGz_4H4Cw&q=dan+stevens&oq=dan+stevens&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.56693.62069.0.62716.25.20.0.3.3.7.378.2388.8j7j2j1.18.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..14.11.535.wZGDlRnRmJo#biv=i%7C18%3Bd%7CT91-IJN2CbaqPM%3A)
Russell Brand
https://www.google.com/search?q=russell+brand&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CYhRKjXkoWFoI6M%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=russell+brand&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CYhRKjXkoWFoI6M%3A)
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Women I am instinctively attracted to:
Kate Winslet
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=YJkwU7iaGcTSqQGr44B4&q=kate+winslet&oq=kate&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.0.41j0l4.282607.287101.0.289267.16.15.0.1.1.0.487.1952.9j0j1j2j1.13.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..3.13.1666.EfwRFAuejJw#biv=i%7C12%3Bd%7CsDaloGY0M5pBOM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=YJkwU7iaGcTSqQGr44B4&q=kate+winslet&oq=kate&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.0.41j0l4.282607.287101.0.289267.16.15.0.1.1.0.487.1952.9j0j1j2j1.13.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..3.13.1666.EfwRFAuejJw#biv=i%7C12%3Bd%7CsDaloGY0M5pBOM%3A)
Sherilyn Fenn
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=gpowU4boNIXuyQHxlIDADw&q=sherilyn+fenn&oq=sherilyn+fenn&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3...49821.57350.0.58846.25.23.0.2.2.2.328.2819.12j3j6j1.22.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..9.16.1491.DNA7X29OA54#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7CjvaKHU_9TuYE8M%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=gpowU4boNIXuyQHxlIDADw&q=sherilyn+fenn&oq=sherilyn+fenn&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3...49821.57350.0.58846.25.23.0.2.2.2.328.2819.12j3j6j1.22.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..9.16.1491.DNA7X29OA54#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7CjvaKHU_9TuYE8M%3A)
Christina Hendriks
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=v5owU6WbDu66yAH5uIGIAg&q=christina+hendricks&oq=christina+hendricks&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.44725.53986.0.54684.32.20.0.12.12.0.300.2072.14j0j4j1.19.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..4.28.1545.SJKnrUbwIgY#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CdaNwaS3u0DD5FM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=v5owU6WbDu66yAH5uIGIAg&q=christina+hendricks&oq=christina+hendricks&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.44725.53986.0.54684.32.20.0.12.12.0.300.2072.14j0j4j1.19.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..4.28.1545.SJKnrUbwIgY#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CdaNwaS3u0DD5FM%3A)
Naomi Watts
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=W50wU-qVEpS42gXzmoD4Dw&q=naomi+watts&oq=naomi+watts&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.129310.136642.0.137606.30.24.1.5.5.4.372.2457.13j8j1j1.23.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..6.24.1910.soi-RYFaTiA#biv=i%7C6%3Bd%7CdkCw22ZflFw1mM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=W50wU-qVEpS42gXzmoD4Dw&q=naomi+watts&oq=naomi+watts&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.129310.136642.0.137606.30.24.1.5.5.4.372.2457.13j8j1j1.23.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..6.24.1910.soi-RYFaTiA#biv=i%7C6%3Bd%7CdkCw22ZflFw1mM%3A)
Sharon Stone
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=5p0wU5DbB66FyQG3mIH4CQ&q=sharon+stone&oq=sharon+stone&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.36710.42788.0.43434.23.16.0.6.6.2.293.2272.3j3j7.13.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..6.17.2208.5YYw-tquwZE#biv=i%7C5%3Bd%7C68LRl9dxwiMuBM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=5p0wU5DbB66FyQG3mIH4CQ&q=sharon+stone&oq=sharon+stone&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.36710.42788.0.43434.23.16.0.6.6.2.293.2272.3j3j7.13.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..6.17.2208.5YYw-tquwZE#biv=i%7C5%3Bd%7C68LRl9dxwiMuBM%3A)
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People who I instinctively dislike:
Tom Cruise
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=95owU5HFCuL4yQGW0IGoDQ&q=tom+cruise&oq=tom+cruise&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.103076.110052.0.110851.29.24.0.5.5.0.429.2787.14j3j2j2j1.22.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..4.25.2337.b1p0CrNy5UE#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7Cgi4j2uzMKIdkvM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=95owU5HFCuL4yQGW0IGoDQ&q=tom+cruise&oq=tom+cruise&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.103076.110052.0.110851.29.24.0.5.5.0.429.2787.14j3j2j2j1.22.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..4.25.2337.b1p0CrNy5UE#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7Cgi4j2uzMKIdkvM%3A)
Hugh Jackman
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=Z5swU-S1AsbZqQHWvoDYAw&q=hugh+jackman&oq=hugh+jackman&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.24751.30279.0.31061.22.15.0.7.7.0.254.1067.10j1j2.13.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..3.19.962.xcoIePvh6Nk#biv=i%7C7%3Bd%7Cbg2cjoCcLkhdVM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=Z5swU-S1AsbZqQHWvoDYAw&q=hugh+jackman&oq=hugh+jackman&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.24751.30279.0.31061.22.15.0.7.7.0.254.1067.10j1j2.13.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..3.19.962.xcoIePvh6Nk#biv=i%7C7%3Bd%7Cbg2cjoCcLkhdVM%3A)
Beyonce
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=h5swU-LABsqxqQGgpIDoDw&q=beyonce&oq=beyonce&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.108638.119463.0.120193.31.21.4.6.7.1.374.2934.10j2j4j3.19.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..5.26.2306.vHZp69Wgh0E#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CnQEWoNdW-EulvM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=h5swU-LABsqxqQGgpIDoDw&q=beyonce&oq=beyonce&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.108638.119463.0.120193.31.21.4.6.7.1.374.2934.10j2j4j3.19.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..5.26.2306.vHZp69Wgh0E#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CnQEWoNdW-EulvM%3A)
Newt Gingrich
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=AJwwU6LfFJD82gWxtYCQAg&q=newt+gingrich&oq=newt+gingrich&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.53176.60168.0.60782.20.13.0.7.7.0.437.2265.5j1j4j1j1.12.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..2.18.2130.ccZAvgUsZ0g#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7CdExBg92fX6e29M%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=AJwwU6LfFJD82gWxtYCQAg&q=newt+gingrich&oq=newt+gingrich&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.53176.60168.0.60782.20.13.0.7.7.0.437.2265.5j1j4j1j1.12.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..2.18.2130.ccZAvgUsZ0g#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7CdExBg92fX6e29M%3A)
Dr. Phil
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=PpwwU5SoE6eqyAHr_IGoAg&q=dr.+phil&oq=dr.+phil&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.32547.38826.0.39623.21.19.0.2.2.0.292.1985.12j1j5.18.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..4.17.1410.OEi-RXrJXd0#biv=i%7C11%3Bd%7C4FRmxXPmXhWqYM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=504&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=PpwwU5SoE6eqyAHr_IGoAg&q=dr.+phil&oq=dr.+phil&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0l5.32547.38826.0.39623.21.19.0.2.2.0.292.1985.12j1j5.18.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..4.17.1410.OEi-RXrJXd0#biv=i%7C11%3Bd%7C4FRmxXPmXhWqYM%3A)
Richard Dawkins
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=444&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=aJwwU9SoErOQyQHe2IHwCA&q=atheists+scientists&oq=atheists+scientists&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0i24.28613.52487.0.53102.27.21.0.6.6.0.310.3478.9j0j9j2.20.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..4.23.2828.4x61QKEfxkA#biv=i%7C190%3Bd%7CUW_K_mqGwDAwJM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=444&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=aJwwU9SoErOQyQHe2IHwCA&q=atheists+scientists&oq=atheists+scientists&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0i24.28613.52487.0.53102.27.21.0.6.6.0.310.3478.9j0j9j2.20.0....0...1c.1.37.mobile-gws-serp..4.23.2828.4x61QKEfxkA#biv=i%7C190%3Bd%7CUW_K_mqGwDAwJM%3A)
Reese Witherspooon
https://www.google.com/search?q=reese+witherspoon&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Xp8wU_-bL8S-2AXrqIDoAg&ved=0CFEQiR4&biw=320&bih=504#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7C7w2Gz9a9g_89gM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=reese+witherspoon&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Xp8wU_-bL8S-2AXrqIDoAg&ved=0CFEQiR4&biw=320&bih=504#biv=i%7C0%3Bd%7C7w2Gz9a9g_89gM%3A)
Angelina Jolie
https://www.google.com/search?q=angelina+jolie&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=a6MwU4-FKsjc2QW6loDABQ&ved=0CDkQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C3%3Bd%7Crj2Tdwm3hIyxcM%3A (https://www.google.com/search?q=angelina+jolie&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=a6MwU4-FKsjc2QW6loDABQ&ved=0CDkQiR4&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C3%3Bd%7Crj2Tdwm3hIyxcM%3A)
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This album contains my drawing of a tree and also other drawings that I had done previously:
https://m.facebook.com/susan.harrisgamard/albums/10203434583656193/?ref=m_notif¬if_t=feed_comment
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Susan Elizabeth Harris-Gamard, thank you for all the materials. Your drawings were good in showing once again your type IEE. Ethics is easy to recognise in the heart on the tree. Extraversion shows in usage of the whole space. Statics and irrationality in in these pictures are quite obvious:
(https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-0/s600x600/10014549_10203435287993801_1611632716_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-0/s600x600/1660429_10203435291113879_1188189745_n.jpg)
You are drawn to the originality and so is your turtle unusual. This means your perception is attracted to a puzzle- images. It is subconscious because Ne is good at guessing the puzzles.
You may be very extraverted and in this case your subtype could be EIE - Hamlet. One EIE typologist (his name is BLK) suggested that EIE is plausible, he found a lot of pictures and music which he liked in your list. Very often people are in doubt between type and subtype.
But we definitely found a lot of energy Superid and believe that Ni is also very strongly present which is a leading function in IEI and ILI types and creative in EIE type.
I am not sure what to say about the people you like or dislike. I think there is quite a few IEE types in likes and some rational types in dislikes. You are welcome to copy your preferences here.
Your music here:
http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,157.0.html (http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,157.0.html)
Your art links - you can use the picture symbol of madonna on the bar if you wish to insert the picture. Alternatively you can just copy as it is - links:
http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,159.0.html (http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,159.0.html)
People preferences: http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,250.0.html (http://socionics4you.com/forum/index.php/topic,250.0.html)
Thank you for taking part in express- diagnostics. You are welcome to be a part of the group of typologists on this forum if you find it interesting. Welcome to contribute to any topics. :)
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Wow! Thank you, Olga. I find your process incredibly fascinating and am definitely interested in delving deeper. As you can probably tell, I was having trouble inserting my photos into the comment box. I will wait until I am able to do so (hopefully someone can help me) before I insert my images in those threads.
I just have one question about my typing results: So if I am not very extraverted, would this mean that I would be the IEI subtype then? I can definitely see the EIE subtype as plausible and it would explain my typing difficulties in so many ways. I am extraverted in a sense that I need to have attention and to interact with people, but I am lacking in assertiveness. Some may see me as introverted because of this.
Thanks again for all the effort that everyone has put into my typing process.
Susan.
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I just now realized something else. The two drawings you chose to show and analyze in your last post, Olga, were projects done for an art course at university. They were both strict assignments with not much freedom allowed. I think my tree represents more my creative style than those two drawings, along with the architectural drawing. I have posted some of my other projects for you to see also. It may change things.
https://m.facebook.com/susan.harrisgamard/albums/10203443623042172/
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Wow! Thank you, Olga. I find your process incredibly fascinating and am definitely interested in delving deeper. As you can probably tell, I was having trouble inserting my photos into the comment box. I will wait until I am able to do so (hopefully someone can help me) before I insert my images in those threads.
I just have one question about my typing results: So if I am not very extraverted, would this mean that I would be the IEI subtype then? I can definitely see the EIE subtype as plausible and it would explain my typing difficulties in so many ways. I am extraverted in a sense that I need to have attention and to interact with people, but I am lacking in assertiveness. Some may see me as introverted because of this.
Thanks again for all the effort that everyone has put into my typing process.
Susan.
Susan, welcome. :) Do you wish to insert your pictures here on this forum? I get the link from any other internet resource like photo-bucket and click on the Madonna picture symbol and it works. )
I would say that IEI subtype would suit more because there is a lot of introverted and dynamic energy in your art. The socionists from my school at the beginning did not see extraversion at all, there is a lot of introverted dynamics in our art preferences. It was too much Ni.
But the fact is that you are an extravert and it is very clearly in your video, in the way you write and talk quite a lot - the volume of your sociability is high. So we understood that Superid (SI) energy in the art preference must be compensation.
Your new pictures point to ethics and may be extraverted ethics - the lady on the portrait radiates happy energy, look open and friendly. In the picture with the river and lights I see introverted dynamics (Ni, SI-energy): contrast in orange and dark blue colour and the waves of the river- movement.
The paper project - introverted profile ( SI - SE). You use white colour of paper (SE- energy) but two many shapes create introverted dynamics - too many small details make the image complex and moving, making the eye wonder from one little image to another. This implies a process and the food for perception/imagination. Therefore this project is definitely irrational/perceptive.
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Ok I understand. Not sure I am clear exactly why, if there was much irrational dynamics present, I was not typed as IEI? This has been my problem for a long time. Introversion extroversion have been quite contradictory for me. I spend at least 75% of my time alone, usually only seeing my son and husband on a typical day. I am fine alone until I reach the point where it gets to be too much, then I need to get out and start experiencing things: go out with my friends to dinner or dancing. And how do others see me? It depends on who you ask. My husband says I am an introvert: I don't mingle in social settings and am not outgoing with people. It doesn't mean I don't like to socialize because I do. I just will always be the quieter one. My introvert friends will say I am more extroverted while my extrovert friends will say I am introverted. It seems I am a chameleon depending on who I am with. . In online groups, most people see me as INFJ (Ni dominant) but there are some who claim they see Ne. I seem to be a contradiction of sorts? Maybe I use both intuitions equally? I do value both, but I don't value Fi very much. It is frustrating. Maybe expecting a clear answer is asking for something that would not happen with me? If so, I am ok with that. :) it is why I have come to Socionics because it seems to be a more in depth, clearer system.
Thank you for explaining everything. I will see what I can do with the pictures.
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Thank you for explaining everything. I will see what I can do with the pictures.
We are very far from explaining everything. This was just an express diagnostics. :)
It may well be that you are a balanced on introversion-extraversion. Some people use the word ambivert. it looks like it does not exist in English. The point is that there differences within the one type on the scale introversion- extraversion. You can find Huxley who is very extraverted and rather introverted like Dostoevsky. So we look at extraversion as not only socialbilty but the volume of information processed. If the volume is quite high and more superficial "knowing a lot about many things" then is it a feature of extraversion. Knowing just a specific knowledge in depth - relates to introversion.
In your case your video reveals extraversion and ethics pretty well. You do not like an ethical introvert at all.
Another important thing to mention, if you as a typologist do not know about one preference you need to evaluate the rest two preferences. Irrationality and statics will automatically lead you to extraversion even it may not be obvious. Any two dichotomies help you to decide about the third one.
In your case art- preferences would not help us much because there we can see introverted dynamics as well as statics. Music reveals statics. Extraversion+ statics = irrationality. This is how we come to Id-type.
Intuition is very obvious this means two types IEE and ILE. Some socionists still think there is a big chance for you to be ILE. I go with ethics.
If you would be a rational type then Fi or Fe would be leading and more obvious in your preferences but it was not.
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http://youtu.be/vz_5rvRRmRo (http://youtu.be/vz_5rvRRmRo)
"Ok I will try to answer each of your questions, Olga. The first: The Great Gatsby was originally a novel about a self-made man who did it all for the woman he loved. I think as a film it has everything: the meaning is conveyed superbly, the cinematography is hyper-real which I love, and I think both the writing and acting are top notch. As far as The Piano, I love films that hit you in the gut, that make you cry and scream and feel so intensely. These are the films I am most attracted to. Sometimes shocking, always emotional, always going against convention. Favorite TV programs: absolute favorites is Sherlock (BBC version), Mad Men, And the old series Lost. Why? I love the way Sherlock is written. It is so compelling and I love puzzles more than anything. They are also self enclosed wholes--each episode can stand alone and is resolved by the end adequately. Mad Men for the psychological intensity. This is my primary motivation for films, shows, books. Lost because of the meaning behind it. The mythological and archetypal combined with human struggle.
I will post some clips from my favorite movies":
http://youtu.be/QiLza4B6XhA (http://youtu.be/QiLza4B6XhA)
http://youtu.be/H7yBQIGyunI (http://youtu.be/H7yBQIGyunI)
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http://youtu.be/tTUt6BXSQTg (http://youtu.be/tTUt6BXSQTg)
http://youtu.be/4mNbUh-tvfc (http://youtu.be/4mNbUh-tvfc)
http://youtu.be/lpOdAHwRnXY (http://youtu.be/lpOdAHwRnXY)
http://youtu.be/vJMC_S-DB2I (http://youtu.be/vJMC_S-DB2I)