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Author Topic: Ben Jones - Please determine my sociotype  (Read 5542 times)

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Re: Ben Jones - Please determine my sociotype
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2018, 06:06:25 AM »
Shows or Films I don't like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os6C45Du2Ow
"Keeping Up With the Kardashians" Katch-Up S14, EP.16 | E!

I strongly dislike the inauthentic displays of emotion in this show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM6mFRtsM-4
Disney Frozen - Elsa & Anna Best Memorable Frozen Movie Moments - Disney Animated Movie

Once again, I strongly dislike the inauthenticity of the emotions in this film, it was very much so, unnecessarily positive in a way, I couldn't enjoy


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Re: Ben Jones - Please determine my sociotype
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2018, 08:38:11 PM »
Copied from the group of Socionics International journal after watching the second video:
"What I see is that you have doubts about the dichotomy of extraversion-introversion. If socionics' theory would suggest that extraversion is exactly about social activity, how would you see yourself then? And why?
My second question is about being irrational. The arguments which you suggested for being irrational type did not ring the bell for me, I could not make sense. If you can formulate them a bit better?
The untidy room would not necessarily count as a definite sign of being irrational. Untidy rooms seem to be a fashion among young people today - this is my opinion.
ust imagine that the whole concept of Quadra is absurd and instead of helping makes the type even more confusing. It is not the criteria which are even worth to mention. This means that in your argument for and against you need to use the very basic description of functions and model A. I will give you a link to the description of them which is in agreement it general concept of socionics. If you will decide to re-write the first video you need to use description of aspects on my website. When you try to explain by using some other concepts - they do not make much sense to me.
Your case is not easy and I think it is better that we take time and analyze things in a more detail.
This is a link to the meaning of functions.
http://socionics4you.com/post-1514?lang=en
And this is general information about the dichotomies. if you could explain how you see your typical behavior and strength and weaknesses based on this theory, I could understand you better.
I would like you to know that your preferences in art and music and films do not match IEE ( only partly and only some of - paintings show and and not all of them) and are not consistent but I have some idea and I am looking for the facts to be sure. Are you OK that you have to give me more information so far? Which theory did you use mainly to learn about socionics or which group you were learning from or maybe an author? Why did you decide to ask different socionists to type you: Is it because you are not sure about your type or because you wanted rather get a confirmation of being IEE?
http://socionics4you.com/post-35?lang=en
While the majority of your favorable paintings suggest the possibility for you to be irrational type I am not sure because art was originally not your thing and you did it because I pushed you. Originally you had so many examples as if you were not very choosy and picky.
Your photography, your music, your films point to rationality. I will stop here and will not go into more detail at the moment. As regards to functions, I do have nothing to suggest that you are not NF.
But group traits are problematic at the moment and I believe that it is because of the theory you learned which was confusing.
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Re: Ben Jones - Please determine my sociotype
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2018, 06:44:27 PM »
This video gives more information to think about. I do not want to put pressure on you to record more videos. I just tell you that ideally, you should record videos like this one on each function - where you consider each function in more detail. But I think it is not that important. If you find later this to be important, if you would wish a bit more clarification - you can always do it. But for now we need to make a closure.
For your functions intuition and ethics there is no problem. Your doubt about extra- intro and rational -irrational are understandable.
You preferences show you to be introvert and rational, hence EII.
This means that ethics is stronger than intuition, that's all.
If you have any questions, you are welcome.
Your subtype could be both IEE or IEI but not EIE as you mentioned that you do not use it much and do not in particular like. Fi limits Fe because appreciate more sincerity of feelings which are not for show.
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